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ROBERT M.
May 17, 06 - 12:07 PM |
John Gilbert + Discussion Forum
Hello Lynn and everyone this is ROBERT M. posting from Yorkshire, England. Can I start by mentioning the Discussion Forum. This forum is an opportunity for people to discuss anything to do with Movies, especially the old movies, that we all seem to know and love very much. But at the present time no one seems to have much to talk about, on these pages. So please come on and start discussing movies, actors, directors or anything to do with movies. Once we start talking about these subject's the conversations can lead to other ideas and other subject's that are connected to movies and actors etc.. What about people's opinions of my posts on the Eleanor Powell -Website- do you like what I have said about the gorgeous ELLIE. What do you think of - MY POEM FOR ELLIE, please let us know, let's have some feedback on these subjects, that are dear to our hearts. Also what are people's opinions on the very handsome "John Gilbert" the silent movie star of the 1920's. Lynn has now started the John Gilbert - Website- have you seen it yet. Lynn has put a lot of work and effort into the site, as she has all her other fantastic websites. Do you all agree with Lynn and myself that John Gilbert wasn't given a chance to shine once the "talkies" emerged in the mid to late 20's. People said his voice was not right for the talkies. But in a "clip" I have seen of him in the "Romeo and Juliet" balcony scene, his voice to me is OK. It might sound a bit "distorted" at times, but it could have something to do with the microphes. Were they in the correct position to pick his voice up properly, or was there some other reason his voice sounded a bit strange now and again. But in most of the movie "clip" I have seen he sounded OK, not bad enough to end his career. In my opinion he wasn't given much of a chance, to succeed in the talkies. He was a massive silent movie star and deserved better treatment from the movie industry. What are your opinions of John Gilbert or anyone else for that matter. After all, it's good to talk Thank you all very much, and I look forward to hearing from more people on this discussion forum very soon. ROBERT M. |
Webmaster Classic Movies
May 27th, 2006 - 9:46 AM |
Robert: Thanks so much for posting this. I too wish that visitors would use the Forum more often. Unfortunately, I'm creating, editing and updating my web sites all the time so it's difficult for me to post more then once per week. I put up this forum for others to use and hope that they will take advantage of it as a place to come and discuss classic movies. |
ROBERT M.
May 27th, 2006 - 6:32 PM |
Hello Lynn and everyone. Yes Lynn it is a shame more people are not discussing movies on these pages as often as we would like them to. Since I posted my last post's on Eleanor Powell, Claudette Colbert and John Gilbert, you are the only person to post a reply to them, today. Let us hope thing's start to move more quickly in the future, as there is definitely enough material out there for us to talk about. ROBERT M. Yorkshire, England.
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ivan
May 31st, 2006 - 3:51 PM |
Hi i have been reading Bud Schulbergs excellent book "moving pictures" about the early days of hollywood and i have just read a section about how a lot of the silent stars who could not make the transition to sound killed themselves. It was really sad, one minute they are massive stars and every one loves them and all of a sudden they are out. regards ivan |
Webmaster
May 31st, 2006 - 4:52 PM |
I'll have to check out that book, sounds great. I wish TCM would re-broadcast the series HOLLYWOOD which was about silent film, there was a great section on Gilbert. |
Anna
Sep 11th, 2006 - 7:15 PM |
Hi - just saw this forum and had to add something to the John Gilbert discussion. He DEFINITELY had a more than adequate voice for sound films - just watch his talkie Downstairs (excellent). It was really just that Louis B Mayer had it in for him and did a lot of damage to his career by helping to make his first talking movies like His Glorious Night nearly unwatchable. Mayer both hated Gilbert personally and hated the salary Jack had accumulated - the likes of which would become a thing of the past after the advent of both talking pictures and the 1929 stock market crash which left nearly every film production company in the red (except MGM). I think Gilbert was, at times, one of the greatest actors of the silent period and certainly one of the most handsome. I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking he is at his best in The Big Parade - really just about the height of silent film acting to me. If you like John Gilbert please have a look at my Gilbert website at http://www.silentfilmlegend.blogspot.com There are pictures, clips and anecdotes on his career that you might enjoy... Ta! |
Lynn Dougherty
Sep 11th, 2006 - 8:53 PM |
Dear Anna: Thanks for your post. I agree with you completely and hope that visitors will look at your blog and read up on Gilbert. I too loved The Big Parade and think if not his best, it certainly was one of the best. I haven't been able to see any other talkies of his except for Queen Christina since none are available anywhwere, at least that I know of, so I envy you in being able to see Downstairs. I believe that he wrote the screenplay for it. You know, he always wanted to be in a "behind the camera" position, but I'm glad he wasn't. Thanks again for writing and I hope people will visit your site.
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ROBERT M.
Sep 12th, 2006 - 11:26 AM |
Hello Lynn and everyone. I have just checked out the above website of John Gilbert, which is full of interesting information. There are plenty of "video" clips to view also. The two "video" clips I watched come from Youtube, but the quality of them is SUPERB, almost remasterd quality. Anyone else who loves John Gilbert will really enjoy looking through the website, which is excellent
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Anna
Sep 14th, 2006 - 8:44 AM |
Thanks for the comments. I made those clips from some DVD-Rs that I got through ebay. You can probably see they are merely copies from television but (being in the UK) they are NEVER shown here so I had to search a bit. The one thing is though, that I haven't been able to find out for sure if these clips are in the public domain. I hope so, otherwise the big bad Warner's people will swoop in and delete them. I hope they are, because these films are so hard to find and at this point really should belong to everyone - especially when these companies like Warners often just sit on these prints and make no effort to make them accessible to the public. But as long as these clips stay where they are I plan to put some more forward including The Show, La Boheme, and He Who Gets Slapped but I want to collect some information on these films first. |
Lynn Dougherty
Sep 14th, 2006 - 6:45 PM |
Dear Anna: I'm so happy that you have shared your movie clips with us. I for one, really want to see more Gilbert films, since there are almost none available. I can't imagine that Warner's would even care about him. MGM certainly didn't care about him at all. However, if they think that there might be a demand for him, they just might release some. You are only doing them a favor in letting the world see his work. Thanks again! Lynn |
jo
Sep 21st, 2006 - 5:48 AM |
Hi wasn't john gilbert obssesed/in love with greta garbo? I read he was in love with her and after a point she did not want to see him anymore and this led to him becoming more depressed etc - maybe this had a negative effect on his career as well. regards. Jo |
John
Feb 15th, 2007 - 1:43 PM |
Gilbert had so much to offer.I think he was a **** good actor.He had charisma.He needed an image change.i would have loved to see him in a great film noir. [url]http://www.garboforever.de.vu/[/url] |
Wendy
Oct 16th, 2007 - 2:53 PM |
I recently saw "Flesh and the Devil". I had seen the movie years ago and had approached it from a Garbo-centric viewpoint.I never paid any attention to Gilbert except as a good looking leading man. When it was on TCM a few weeks ago, I was surprised at the caliber of John Gilbert's performance. Given a somewhat trite and melodramatic story, he could have violently overacted, but instead was beautifully understated. Some of these late silents are brilliantly directed and shot, and he acts them perfectly. I think that his career deserves a second look- his performances might just be considered some of the best in silent films. I agree that he got a bum deal in talkies, but there is something so modern and beautiful about his silent performances. I like him as a silent actor only. He was quite easy to identify with. He connects in a way few talking stars do. I like to think of him coming back to life when one of his silents is shown nowadays. I hope he knows how much we few, we happy few appreciate him. |
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